Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/10/Category:Structures by height

Category:Structures by height

The point in categories is to help people organize media related to a specific subject. Not act as stores of trivial information that serves no practical purpose to categorizing images. To that end (most if not all) of these subcategories seem way to granular and trivial to be a meaningful way to categorize images of structures.

Just to give one example we have Category:5-meter-tall structures, which contains images of Category:George Henry Thomas Memorial. Is anyone seriously going to argue that people know about or care that the George Henry Thomas Memorial is 5-meters tall or that it's a defining characteristic of the statue (let alone one that even relates to images of it)?

Is there really that much a meaningful difference between a 5-meter and 6-meter tall statue that justifies them being in special categories for how tall they are? Not to say the height of a statue isn't an interesting fact, but it's just not one that IMO most people care about when looking for images of them. At least at the per meter level. There's also already infoboxes for storing that kind of information anyway.

There's also the side issue of how the subcats seem to have arbitrary start and end heights. Like Category:23-49-meter-tall structures. So I think in light of that the other issues that at the end of the day these categories should just be axed since they are totally arbitrary, to granular, and meaningless trivia in most (if not all) instances. @Omphalographer: and @RoyZuo: Adamant1 (talk) 20:18, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@Adamant1: There are some categories defined by height that should not be axed, like Category:High-rises, Category:Skyscrapers, Category:Supertalls, and Category:Megatalls, as they are useful for navigation. The only categories that does not seem useful to me are "x-meter-tall buildings/structures" categories, unless there is more than one building/structure with similar heights. Instead, I would prefer categories like Category:100-149-meter-tall buildings, despite seeming to have "arbitrary start and end heights", since people tend to categorize buildings and other structures by height ranges instead of exact heights. However, I don't like Category:0-22-meter-tall buildings and Category:23-49-meter-tall buildings categories as more arbitrary than Category:100-149-meter-tall buildings. Anyway, I prefer categorizing buildings/structures by height like this:

• 0-99-meter-tall-buildings/structures
  • 0-9-meter-tall buildings/structures
  • 10-19-meter-tall buildings/structures
  • 20-29-meter-tall buildings/structures
  • 30-39-meter-tall buildings/structures
  • 40-49-meter-tall buildings/structures
  • 50-59-meter-tall buildings/structures
  • 60-69-meter-tall buildings/structures
  • 70-79-meter-tall buildings/structures
  • 80-89-meter-tall buildings/structures
  • 90-99-meter-tall buildings/structures
• 100-199-meter-tall-buildings/structures
• 200-299-meter-tall-buildings/structures
• 300-399-meter-tall-buildings/structures
• 400-499-meter-tall-buildings/structures
• 500-599-meter-tall-buildings/structures
• 600-699-meter-tall-buildings/structures
• 700-799-meter-tall-buildings/structures
• 800-899-meter-tall-buildings/structures
• 900-999-meter-tall-buildings/structures
• 1000-1099-meter-tall-buildings/structures

Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 07:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:High-rises should be axed, as it does not seem to have a commonly agreed definition. But Category:Skyscrapers should be kept, as it is nowadays usually defined as buildings taller than 100 or 150 metres. I would stick with the 100-metre definition, as it is consistent with my above proposal. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 08:04, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

• The present categories partly came from a previous discussion at Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2012/09/Category:High-rises, where I ended up replacing the Category:High-rises by height and Category:Skyscrapers by height categories. They originals were kind of useless and misused, because there's no single definition for high rises or skyscrapers. I ended up regretting it, because there are thousands of these kinds of categories, and even using scripts, it ends up as a mega-project. --ghouston (talk) 22:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)