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Football logos

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I was responsible for creating the article about Club Sportivo 2 de Mayo in Portuguese. At the time, I suspected the authenticity of the emblem, but I didn't pursue the matter due to lack of time. To be honest, the emblem of the club in question didn't match reality. This is the second case (see) I've encountered in a week, and I believe there might be more. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 04:44, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Conde Edmond Dantès Which emblem are you refering to? Jonteemil (talk) 04:21, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In short, the two files that do not match reality are from the clubs 2 de Mayo and Atenas. The point I am highlighting is the possibility of other emblems of Latin sports clubs being fake. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 16:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Of course there is always a possibility of some guy uploading fake emblems to Commons. If you see an emblem that is of now educational use, you may nominate it for deletion, as you have done. The 2 de Mayo logo seems to have already been deleted. Jonteemil (talk) 16:51, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re: File:Lesser Coat of Arms of Ukraine.svg

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The October 2022 version has a smaller file size but with less precision. It is not even symmetric. Mike Rohsopht (talk) 04:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About a user

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I think this user named "Chhanchhana zote hmar" (I think you are familiar with them) is uploading hundreds of similar photos, adding watermarks and sometimes containing some exif data and sometimes don't. Those are really suspicious to me. Seems like downloading from somewhere and reuploading with their own editings. They never listened and never attempted to listen to any of the notifications in the talk page. Btw, most of their pictures are ineligible to be in existence in Commons, I believe so. Is there any need to contact an admin for speedy deletions? That person was already told by an admin "You will be blocked soon" in the talk page months ago. What shall we do now? And regarding the notification, I need to ask you something. I had tagged more than 20 files (uploaded by that user) as "No permission since". Do I need to add one notification for each file? Wouldn't it be exhaustive? Can we sum up? --Haoreima (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm aware about the user and I posted COM:ANB#Chhanchhana zote hmar a few days ago to get the user blocked. Hopefully they can block him. He has also been blocked before but that seems to mainly be because he uploaded copyvios. When tagging files with {{No permission since}} I suggest using COM:VisualFileChange which tags and notifies the users automatically, among other things. If you choose to do it manually, which you intentionally or unintentionally is doing, then you have to manually notify the uploader of all the files which have been tagged. The files can be listed under the same notification header, see for example User talk:كامل الزين which is how VisualFileChange does it.
About the copyright, one file has been tagged with {{Permission received}}, if that turns out to be correct, then I think we can assume the rest are to. Jonteemil (talk) 19:31, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Block Warning

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You told me I uploaded a file that violates copyright Please I don't understand Iamakisah (talk) 11:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Iamakisah: Yes. You uploaded files that were copyright violations. You were warned. Then you still uploaded File:Victoria United FC (Opopo).png which is a copyright violation. I then gave you a final warning. If upu upload any more copyright violations, you will be blocked. Jonteemil (talk) 12:52, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note

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i asked local users before but they are less active now, can you as expert add some logos i suggest (appreciate);

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namdhari_FC#

https://www.the-aiff.com/club/12488

additional question, see edit history, and how to avoid such things:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mohun_Bagan_Super_Giant.svg#mw-jump-to-license 93.140.235.3 02:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

........

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RK_Metkovi%C4%87

https://hr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datoteka:RK_Metkovic_Mehanika.svg#mw-jump-to-license

Russia in 2021 Championships

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In this Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:SVG flags of Russia-discussion you were unsure of correct license. And they got deleted. But do you have an idea of what to use instead as a flagsubstitute? Best regards Migrant (talk) 21:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, sorry, I don't. Jonteemil (talk) 09:35, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Loves Folklore 2024 has started, Join us!

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Hello Jonteemil,

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Template:Remove border/test

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Template:Remove border/test has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 08:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Logo FC Red Star Belgrade.svg

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File:Logo FC Red Star Belgrade.svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Ранко Николић (talk) 18:43, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Logo FC Red Star Belgrade (simple).svg

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File:Logo FC Red Star Belgrade (simple).svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Ранко Николић (talk) 18:44, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:FK Kolubara logo.svg

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File:FK Kolubara logo.svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Ранко Николић (talk) 19:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notification about possible deletion

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Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Jonteemil (talk) 11:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Party logo deletions

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Hi, you have nominated some party logos for deletion. I am not entirely familiar with Wikipedia’s policy on this subject, but I find this to be completely absurd seeing as all other Georgian party logos are staying. Please elaborate on your decision. Thanks in advance. Zlad! (talk) 00:11, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All files on Commons must be licensed freely in the country of origin and in the United States, where the servers are. Your files were licensed with {{PD-textlogo}} which means that the logo is too simple to be copyrighted. I don't think the files that I nominated were that simple, rather quite complex. But you are free to comment on the respective deletion request as to why the files are free and should be kept. Jonteemil (talk) 09:29, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help. I have followed your instructions and updated infoboxes, not just of the 3-4 parties whose logos you nominated for deletion, but of all the parties whose logos I uploaded.
I believe there are 20 or so more logos I have uploaded on Commons. You can nominate all of those for deletion as well. Zlad! (talk) 22:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect. Not all your logos are likely complex enough to be copyrightable, however COM:TOO Georgia is unknown at the moment so we don't know how much or little complexity is needed for copyright protection in Georgia. But for example File:Conservative Movement logo.png, File:Logo of For Georgia.png and similarly uncomplex logos are okay here on Commons, so those ones does not need to be uploaded locally to Wikipedia. Only the ones complex enough to be copyrightable must be uploaded locally, the rest are okay here. And of course, complexity is a subjective opinion. Jonteemil (talk) 23:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still uploaded all of them locally for safety. Btw if you further find any Georgian party’s logo which is uploaded on Commons objectionable please contact me and I will upload it locally so that parties does get left without their logos in the infobox. Thanks for teaching me and providing genuine help 🫡 Zlad! (talk) 00:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you @Jonteemil for bringing the matter to my attention. I apologize for any inconvenience caused by my unfamiliarity with all the Wikipedia norms. I want to assure you that I have taken the necessary actions regarding the copyright concerns you mentioned.

As the works in question are solely my own creations, I have sent the required email to the competent authority as requested. They have informed me that it may take up to three days to process the permissions.

I sincerely appreciate your guidance in this matter and will ensure to adhere to all the guidelines moving forward. If there are any further steps I need to take, please do let me know. Thank you for your understanding and assistance.

Best regards. Kolkata.cult (talk) 12:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, good. Please don't reupload any file that is deleted. Request its undeletion at COM:UNDEL instead and respect the decision. Jonteemil (talk) 12:57, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you once again! Best. Kolkata.cult (talk) 13:10, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding uploaded files

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Hello @Jonteemil,

Thank you for pointing out this issue, and I apologize for any confusion regarding the licensing of the files I uploaded.

I want to inform you that I have reviewed and updated the images in question to ensure they comply with Wikimedia Commons’ copyright policies. The images are now correctly licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0, and I have provided the appropriate attribution, clearly mentioning the author and the original sources for each file. Additionally, I have double-checked that all licensing information is up to date and in line with the guidelines provided in «Commons:Licencias».

It was never my intention to ignore the rules, and I appreciate the opportunity to correct this issue. I will continue to follow the guidelines closely and make sure any files I upload in the future comply with free license policies.

If any further adjustments are needed, please don't hesitate to let me know. I am fully committed to adhering to the Wikimedia Commons rules.

Thank you for your understanding and help.

Best regards, Luzonic (talk) 10:20, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Luzonic To prove that you have the right to upload and license the files, please follow instructions at COM:CONSENT. Jonteemil (talk) 11:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3 days block message

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Hello @Jonteemil,

I am sorry, but I got a notification that you had left a message on my user page about a 3 days block from editing on commons, but there isn't such a message om my user page.

--Elgewen (talk) 08:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I just fixed a previous notification of a block that missed the heading, see my edit: Special:Diff/881729268/923626103. I did not post a new notification, nor have you been blocked again. So don't you worry about it :). Jonteemil (talk) 10:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw

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I withdraw my request for adminship, could you please close the candidate page.--Michel Bakni (talk) 23:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done by CptViraj. Jonteemil (talk) 18:50, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Boro-300px.png

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Hi there, grateful for your diligence on this; I'm a club official and can confirm the badge's upload is legitimate, replacing an older obsolete version. I note the instructions on the speedy delete tag on my talkpage and can get something official from the football club to that email - please can you assist me in understanding what the club needs to say or do in relation to this? Many thanks Stourdave (talk) 13:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Stourdave What is needed seems to have already been added so everything is in order. Jonteemil (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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